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Masturbating and fantasizing

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Masturbating and fantasizing

Postby Gearbox on Sat Aug 02, 2008 11:57 pm

Is it an offense before God to masturbate and fantasize of someone even if you have no intention of acting on your fantasy? How perfect is a man or woman expected to be when he we were born into inquity with imperfections. As I understand it, we can strive to be as perfect as humanly possible by repressing unholy thoughts, but we will always faulter because it is a constant everyday battle against all sorts of temptations. This is especially true in the proclaimed "free" cultures of the world. I suppose this is why certain types of religions in certain countries are seen as threats to freedom.

But I have to ask...did the Creator just give us life and free will just for His own amusement only to see what will transpire among us? What is the whole point of His plan? Uh mean, when yuh consider the suffering and cruelty many people face on earth (sometimes none of their own fault), yuh would have to say that there is nothing amusing about this whole thing.

The concept of life after death is one that I have not bought into...and I don't think I ever will. If you tell me that I'm going to live after I die, then I will ask where was I before I was born into this world. And if all people from throughout history are going to be resurrected, then wouldn't the earth be over populated by far?? :puzzled: :weird:

Now PF, I suppose that you gine quote half de bible to me on this, but please try to summarize in your own words.
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Postby Gearbox on Thu Aug 07, 2008 7:31 pm

My girl Pumpkin tek off and gone...and I was hoping that she would engage me in dis conversation since it is right up she alley. :puzzled:
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Postby PumpkinFritters on Tue Aug 12, 2008 7:01 am

Gearbox wrote:My girl Pumpkin tek off and gone...and I was hoping that she would engage me in dis conversation since it is right up she alley. :puzzled:
:laff1: :laff2: :laff2: I now get hay nuh :):)
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Postby PumpkinFritters on Tue Aug 12, 2008 10:17 am

27 “YOU heard that it was said, ‘You must not commit adultery.’ 28 But I say to YOU that everyone that keeps on looking at a woman so as to have a passion for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart. 29 If, now, that right eye of yours is making you stumble, tear it out and throw it away from you. For it is more beneficial to you for one of your members to be lost to you than for your whole body to be pitched into Ge·hen′na. 30 Also, if your right hand is making you stumble, cut it off and throw it away from you. For it is more beneficial to you for one of your members to be lost than for your whole body to land in Ge·hen′na.
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Postby Gearbox on Sat Aug 16, 2008 3:18 pm

PumpkinFritters wrote:27 “YOU heard that it was said, ‘You must not commit adultery.’ 28 But I say to YOU that everyone that keeps on looking at a woman so as to have a passion for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart. 29 If, now, that right eye of yours is making you stumble, tear it out and throw it away from you. For it is more beneficial to you for one of your members to be lost to you than for your whole body to be pitched into Ge·hen′na. 30 Also, if your right hand is making you stumble, cut it off and throw it away from you. For it is more beneficial to you for one of your members to be lost than for your whole body to land in Ge·hen′na.


Well it still better to sin within yuh heart than to actually carry out the willful act. As an example, somebody may get you so angry that you might you think of ways you'd like to hurt that person...but once you do not carry out the act, sometime down the road you may say to yourself that you're glad you did not commit the act because you have forgiven the person and you and that person might even be on good terms again. Anyway, as a living human being sometimes you have to find the safest way to let off a little steam...and that includes sexual steam as well. :angel1:
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Postby Walter on Sat Aug 16, 2008 5:57 pm

Gearbox wrote:
PumpkinFritters wrote:27 “YOU heard that it was said, ‘You must not commit adultery.’ 28 But I say to YOU that everyone that keeps on looking at a woman so as to have a passion for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart. 29 If, now, that right eye of yours is making you stumble, tear it out and throw it away from you. For it is more beneficial to you for one of your members to be lost to you than for your whole body to be pitched into Ge·hen′na. 30 Also, if your right hand is making you stumble, cut it off and throw it away from you. For it is more beneficial to you for one of your members to be lost than for your whole body to land in Ge·hen′na.


Well it still better to sin within yuh heart that to actually carry out the willful act. As an example, somebody may get you so angry that you might you think of ways you'd like to hurt that person...but once you do not carry out the act, sometime down the road you may say to yourself that you're glad you did not commit the act because you have forgiven the person and you and that person might even be on good terms again. Anyway, as a living human being sometimes you have to find the safest way to let off a little steam...and that includes sexual steam as well. :angel1:



even at wuk in de wash room ? :puzzled:
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Postby Gearbox on Sun Aug 17, 2008 8:20 am

Walter wrote:
even at wuk in de wash room ? :puzzled:


If yuh is a young strong 21 year old man and some sexy woman at work triggers that urge and sensation...why not?...or you would prefer to walk around the office wid a stiff dickie bulging thru yuh pants? If yuh kin shit in de toilet why can't yuh fire a jerk there too? But I suppose you were always a fella with very low to zero testosterone levels. :roll:
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Re:

Postby baje on Thu Sep 04, 2008 10:35 am

Walter wrote:even at wuk in de wash room ? :puzzled:


or the boardroom :hide:
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Postby Gearbox on Thu Sep 04, 2008 1:04 pm

baje wrote:
Walter wrote:even at wuk in de wash room ? :puzzled:


or the boardroom :hide:


Uh gine tell yuh a lil story bout a boardroom in de red-light district...doan want any and everybody read it...plus PF may get a little offended by it.
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Re: Masturbating and fantasizing

Postby PumpkinFritters on Wed Sep 17, 2008 11:32 pm

Uh now get back :)
Well GB , u know they say , there 's a fine line between love and hate ??
Well thats the case with ur reasoning .
The Bible says do not give room for satan to work on u . If u think stuff , he would just give u the opportunity on a platter ! u would not have to seek it . Jehovah the maker of u knows whats best for u and Jesus said pondering on stuff is wrong . Its only natural u may think things but u have to dismiss them from the mind .
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Re: Masturbating and fantasizing

Postby Gearbox on Thu Sep 18, 2008 10:48 pm

PumpkinFritters wrote:Uh now get back :)
Well GB , u know they say , there 's a fine line between love and hate ??
Well thats the case with ur reasoning .
The Bible says do not give room for satan to work on u . If u think stuff , he would just give u the opportunity on a platter ! u would not have to seek it . Jehovah the maker of u knows whats best for u and Jesus said pondering on stuff is wrong . Its only natural u may think things but u have to dismiss them from the mind .


Well you gotta understand one thing bout me...I ain trying to be no saint, and I ain trying to be perfect...dah is tuh much wuk...calls fuh too much discipline. So I prepared to live with my few imperfections and accept whatever consequences may come with them. I'm of the opinion that if yuh got a itch, de natural ting tuh do is scratch. Contentment can come in more than one form. So it's up to you to live the way that suits you best, while I do de same.
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Re: Masturbating and fantasizing

Postby PumpkinFritters on Tue Oct 07, 2008 5:53 pm

Well , there r other things in life that calls for discipline ....like work, being married .
I c u manage very well and really its all because u WANT TO.... and so as with any else ,
the choice is urs .
Once I remember telling my daughter what the consequences to her actions may b . She said
she is very willing to take whatever comes her way because she was gonna do as she please . Only
to find out when the cons' came that she was not willing and couldnt bear them and of course
the ususal " y me" hahaha I just had to remind her of what she said b4.
So u becareful.
Being a servant of the true God Jehovah is a way of life that u have to work at
everyday because none of us r perfect and we fall short of God's righteousness for most of our
lives but we still keep trying . Dont forget , King David sinned ( as they would say ....big time!) yet,
Jehovah said he was a man after his own heart . Why? David was always concerned about doing
Jehovah's will , he loved Jah . He ..as we would say ... just simply fouled up . But he was also very
repentant in truth and Jah forgave him freely.
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